Final resting place of Thomas Goin (born ca. 1750-1755),
American Revolutionary War soldier
The information regarding Thomas’ grave was told to me by Roger
Edmondson, a cousin who lives in Tazewell, TN. Several years ago, he took
me to the gravesite and told me the story that had been handed down to him by
his father and grandfather. Everything that I had previously read had
indicated that Thomas’ grave is at the bottom of Norris Lake. As Roger
relates, even when the lake is at full pool, at least half of the cemetery is
out of the water. I suggested that Roger write the information down so it
can be passed on to all who are interested. He summarized it in an
article entitled “Big Barren Primitive Baptist Church & Cemetery”.
Roger also gave me a map that he had drawn that shows the location of the
church and cemetery.
Here is Roger’s article and hand-drawn map:
Big Barren Primitive
Baptist Church & Cemetery
In reference to
Thomas Goin (1755-1838) and Levi Goin
(1778-1865)
Introduction
Location of church and cemeteryLocation of Thomas and Levi’s graves
Justification-The story
Introduction:
My great grandmother was Catherine Goin Edmondson, wife of
William Lane Edmondson, daughter of Sterling Goin, granddaughter of Old Levi
Goin, and great granddaughter of Thomas Goin. One of her sons, Robert Dewey
Edmondson, was my grandfather and lived next door to her and her husband. She
was one of three Goin sisters that married three Edmondson brothers. Catherine
and her sister, Mary, are buried at Cox Cemetery, Claiborne County, Tennessee.
Therefore my line of Edmondsons are very familiar with the Goin
legacy, in Claiborne County, and the confusion over the location of the old
church and cemetery and especially Thomas and Levi’s, and their wives, graves.
The church and cemetery was located less than one third of a mile from the farm
that Catherine and William owned at the time of the T.V.A. grave removal. My
brother and I own the farm now.
Location
of the church and cemetery:
The old log and plank church stood overlooking Big Barren Creek in Claiborne
County, Tennessee. It was located on the right side of the old Knoxville
highway (33) heading south toward Knoxville. There was a short dirt drive going
up hill from the right side of the highway. The drive curved to the right
before turning into the church. Located to the left of the bend was the
cemetery. An old house foundation sits about 150’ below the church and is under
water when the lake is at full pool, but the church site is not.
The cemetery extended from near the top of the first hill, over to the drive,
and then down the south side of the drive almost to the old highway. At full
pool at least half of the cemetery is out of the water.
The entire site is located just south of the current Knoxville
Highway and across the road from Windy’s Lakeside Market. It lies about three
miles north of the Union/Claiborne County line and about nine miles south of
New Tazewell, Tennessee. Cedar Grove Marina is located about one third mile
downstream from the church site. The church that was located very near to the
marina was Cedar Grove Methodists Church; there was also Mr. Western’s store
and Cedar Grove Grade School. My father and grandfather both attended the grade
school.
Location of graves:
Their graves, as were many graves of that time, were only marked with slabs of
limestone ledge material. Most of the stones were unmarked and regular
gravestones were rare. The graves were in the uppermost section of the cemetery
and were not removed during the T.V.A. Grave Relocation Project.
Justification:
My grandfather and his extended family used to camp on the old church site. I
camped with them during the 50’s and 60’s. We used some of the old church
foundation rock as a hearth for cooking and just sitting around at night. In
the overgrown cemetery shallow, mostly filled in rectangular pits were plainly
visible, the number being around a dozen. My grandfather and his brothers used
to tell us children ghost stories about the cemetery and we stayed scared to
death for most of the nights that we camped. Note: Some of the bodies were
relocated to Cox cemetery in Claiborne County and to Big Barren Memorial
Cemetery on Little Valley Road in Union County, Tennessee.
Many times my grandfather and father told me about their small part in the
T.V.A. Grave Removal Project. They told me that the T.V.A. notified the people
of the area, I suppose by posted bills and the newspaper, of the date and time
they would be working in a particular cemetery. In 1934 or 1935 my great
grandmother, Catherine Goin Edmondson (age about 68), my grandfather, Robert
Dewey Edmondson (age about 35), and my father, Earnest Edmondson (age about 13)
walked the short distance from the back of the farm down to the cemetery. There
they met with a T.V.A. official. They told them that they did not want the
graves of Thomas, his wife, Levi and his wife removed. As they were the only
people there to speak for the Goin family their wish was granted and the graves
WERE NOT REMOVED! The T.V.A. even offered to put up new stones for them in
another cemetery, but they refused the offer.
Many Goin researchers have their own ideas about the church, the cemetery, and
the graves, one man even calling my ancestors liars, however my family was
there and took part in the decision making. My great grandfather even attended
the church a couple of times.
The cemetery and church site are now seriously overgrown to the point of being
impassible. If I could gain access to the cemetery through the thick underbrush
I’m sure I could stand within a fifty-foot radius of where the graves are
located. If anyone goes to the site do not expect to see any left over
gravestones, as I remember none being left behind when I used to camp
there.
Even though this is an oral history of the church and cemetery my ancestors had
no reason to speak anything but the truth and the empty graves speak for
themselves.
Eddie Goins, a well-recognized Goin researcher, suggested that I
write this down before the information is lost forever.
Roger L. Edmondson
10/11/2010
On October 10, 2009 there was a ceremony at Pleasant Point
Cemetery, in Claiborne County, TN, to recognize Thomas and two other
Revolutionary War soldiers, Harmon Hopper and John Owsley. Three stones
were placed in the cemetery to honor these three men. The men are not
buried under these stones, but memorialized there. However, I have seen
Thomas listed on Find A Grave as being buried in Pleasant Point Cemetery. My
cousin, Troy, and I attended that ceremony to see if we might gain some
information about Thomas. At that time we suspected this Thomas was
related to our Thomas Goin(g) of Randolph County, NC, ca. 1729-1797, but we
were not sure. On that day we had hoped to gain some insight into his
connection with our ancestors. We visited with one of his descendants who
was there, but she wasn’t sure if there was a connection. Since then, my
Y-DNA and other documents have proven that he was the son of our Thomas
Goin(g). Roger had been somewhat involved in planning Thomas’ memorial
ceremony. I recently asked him to explain the placement of his memorial
stone in Pleasant Point Cemetery. He summarized it an article entitled
“Thomas Goin Burial”.
Here is Roger’s article:
Thomas Goin Burial
Recently several relatively new researchers have located a
gravestone for Thomas Goin at Pleasant Point Cemetery, Claiborne County,
Tennessee. However, a local DAR chapter without mentioning that it was only a
memorial stone erected this stone. Although several Goin folks are buried there
Thomas is not one of them.
Thomas was one of the founding members of Big Barren Primitive Baptist Church.
This church was located between the Old Knoxville Road and Big Barren Creek. It
was a log and plank structure. The church building became untenable for church
services and was later used as a barn by John Keck who lived nearby. The church
records indicate that Thomas, his son Levi and Levi’s wife were buried in that
cemetery.
In 1935 during the clearing for Norris Lake the Tennessee Valley
Authority (TVA) posted a notice in the Claiborne Progress for interested
parties to meet at the cemetery at a certain date and time. Catherine Goin
Edmondson (Thomas 1, Levi 2, Sterling 3, Catherine 4) her son Dewey and grandson
Ernest met with the “TVA MAN” at the appointed date and time. There were no
stones marking the graves only slight depressions remained to indicate that the
ground had ever been disturbed. The TVA crews had already relocated many of the
marked graves from the newer part of the cemetery located down on the creek
bottom. When informed that little could be recovered from the older graves my
great grandmother (Catherine) told the TVA MAN to just “leave ‘em be”!
The TVA listing for the removals from that cemetery do not list
Thomas, Levi or his wife as being removed and reburied.
This story was passed down to me by my grandfather, Dewey, and
my father, Ernest who stood with Catherine by their ancestors graves on that
day in 1935.
Thomas’s new stone was placed in an open area of the cemetery
over some older unmarked graves. If anyone had the remains exhumed for any
reason (DNA, etc.) it would not be his remains under the marker. I requested
through my SAR chapter president, but to no avail, that a note be added to the
back of the stone that it was a memorial stone only and that he was not buried
at that location. I dropped out of SAR, who worked closely with DAR on this
project, over the lack of frankness about the stone. I wish them the best of
luck in future endeavors, however I hope that they are more informative on
future memorial gravestones.
Very Respectfully,
Roger L. Edmondson
3/8/2019
I am a decendant of John G Keck and James K. Polk Mayes.
ReplyDeleteThere is a lot of marriages between the Kecks and Mayes's and some Goins.
I read on the internet, somewhere, that the story of Johnson Mayes is similar to this.
I am trying to find out who has legal control over Pleasant Point Cemetery in New Tazewell, TN. If you, or someone you know can help, I would appreciate any information you can provide. Do you happen to have longitude and latitude readings on the graveyard that is mostly submerged? I think it is where Johnson Mayes is buried.
These Goings lines are so confusing I also have a Thomas Goings who died in 1790 in Randolph County, NC and left a will naming his children including a son named Bruton Goings. I also have a Levi Goings who testified to his Revolutionary War Pension in Moore/Lee County, North Carolina. Near him, I have an Edward Goings Revolutionary War pensioner who died in Chatham County, NC. Will we ever figure out who is really our ancestors. God bless!
ReplyDeleteI am Cyndie Goins Hoelscher, Cyndith@hotmail.com. The Thomas Goings who left a will in 1790 Randolph County NC is most likely related to Edward Goings Sr, Revolutionary soldier who died in Chatham County, NC and William Goings Sr who died in Carbonton, NC in 1830’s. All of these areas were once the southernmost part of Granville County, NC. Thomas had sons Bruton and Drury named in his will. One moved down to South Carolina while one stayed near the Uhwarrie River in Randolph County, NC also in Moore/Lee/Chatham (formerly southern Granville County, NC) Levi Goins is buried near Sanford, NC. It is important to know that these families did not move much in colonial times. The county boundaries moved as Granville was cut down and divided into many counties. But family disputes may have caused the split between the sons of Thomas Goings of 1790 in Randolph County, NC also, I have witnessed in this family the tragic death of young wives and the need of men, even old men, to remarry. A man could have as many as three or four wives and just as many different sets of children, in his lifetime. I believe that is why we may see different women and sets of children attached to men of same of age and same region. We tend to believe women lived as long as women of today and some did. But some did not. It was a hard life.
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